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alhoon · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: The dominion system

To my knowledge and opinion, the Dominion system of the D&D (Companions set, Cyclopedia) is the best system I have seen for building up/running Fiefdoms, baronies, etc. I still use the same system (with some adjusting I did over ... 15 years) for dominions.

The system can be used with 3rd edition easily and can be combined with the very good guide to strongholds ascessory of 3rd edition.

Changes I have made:

- I changed from the standard "Hex" map to... nothing.

I.e To area. The area of a small hex (the 8miles diameter one) is roughly 96 sq miles.

- I made adjustments to the Confidence level checks.

- I changed the "Peasant Family" count for taxes to counting Adults. I.e The tax income comes from Adults not PF.

- I changed the resource income values. It is still done by PFamilies but it is not "default" i.e a PFamily working the Count's cows doesn't pay more than a PF working the Count's chicken since cows are more profitable. The same goes for vegetable income and mining income.
Gold mines now generate much, much more money than say... coal mines.

- I changed the payment of the various soldiers.

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Havard · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject:

Did you include the revisions from Bruce Heard's articles in Dragon Magazine? They should also be available on pandius IIRC...

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Cab · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

Bruces additions are good, they make for a more believable economy... but in a way they're less D&D ish, in that the original dominion rules are meant to leave a barony on the poor side to encourage a PC to go out and adventure for extra gold.

Glgnfz · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject:

yes! i love the system!

i don't think it's very realistic, but it's very playable!
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alhoon · Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:

Where can I find these additions? I live in Greece and I don't have access to past Dragon magazines.
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Cab · Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:14 am Post subject:

Haven't got time to go and find the exact ones, but I THINK you'll find them here:
http://www.pandius.com/bheard.html

alhoon · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:48 am Post subject:

Well, it is a cool site and all, very enlightening... but I didn't find anything useful rulewise except some very weird micro managing rules about how much someone eats etc.

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ExTSR · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: The dominion system

alhoon · Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject:

Nope. Instead they earn far less than before. No more Huge armies by squeezing the peasants to feed them with 10gp/pfamily standard income.

It should be noted, that the way my games are, nobles have money but not extremely many. Salt tax becomes very important since the cost of managing your direct vassals (holidays, army to keep the peace a la medevial, Rome etc Total war) has increased relatively.

And of course, because numbers speak best: A baron with 30000 peasants (productive, children are +40%) earns about 25000 gold per month and has to pay salt taxes etc from there on. BTW: No XP for that kind of income! Instead they get XP for defeating "problems" (you either charge the dragon or bribe him to attack your pesky neighbohr. You go in the city under cover to find the assassins or hire very skilled detectives to uncover them etc).
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